Can we paint over this white and the tile still stick? But, what then what do we cover the redgard with in the non-tiled area? I've had too many experiences with customers telling me about the very slow drying time with pre-mixed tile … Then set tiles 1/8” above tub shoulder. Roger, I have black mastic residue from pulling up linoleum. I would much rather use modified because it is easier to work with, and in my opinion sticks better, but I am being told you shouldn’t use it in a shower because moisture breaks down the polymers in the modified thinset over time. Redgard will work, but a primer made for self-leveling cement works as well, and is much less expensive. Posts: 6,480 Received 361 Votes on 337 Posts The only system that can be used over drywall is Ditra and Prova membrane. Does anyone have experience installing vinyl glue-down tile over Redguard? Which particular product (brand name). Any information would be helpful and appreciated. You can browse through the many Tile Redi choices here. No, you absolutely CAN NOT use tile adhesive (mastic) over the redgard – it will never fully cure. Click here to get an instruction manual for your waterproofing installation. The only one that has specific requirements is schluter. I thought Redguard was … It’ll be fun. My dilemma is that the gap is too big in some areas (1/4”). Additionally, can you use premixed thinset over redguard? This finished tile floor is installed over a plywood and cement backer board subfloor. You need a full coating for the product to be effective. Thanks- my picture is what the shower looks like after scraping as much redguard off the pan (and skin off my knuckles) as I could, I left the corners and curb- is this what I was supposed to do? No, you’ll need to tape and mud it, then use redgard over that. In an effort to make a new basement shower extra waterproof, I put up 6mil vapor barrier on the studs, 1/4 inch hardiebacker on that, and then one thin coat of Redgard on that. The contractor told me to put Redguard on the curb and "all over if you want to" so I put Redguard all over the pan and curb and 12" up the Durock. The instructions say to fill the gap with 100% silicone, but I can’t find any info on the CBP website about applying Redgard over silicone. I just skimmed over the screw heads with thinset and red guard over everything. We are tiling our 3 shower walls. The brand we have is flextile. I’m open for suggestions! He did the pre-slope, curb, liner, & mud. But since it sounds like you are putting RedGard down, I'm going with the assumption the RedGard is going over a concrete slab floor. Their product choices include a wide range of sizes, curb widths, drain type/shape/locations, with/without bench, and shape choices (rectangle, neo, etc.). I think your overthinking it. Yes, since you already have it there just sand it down and apply redgard over it. As always, if you have any questions feel free to leave a comment for me. RedGard the exposed wall, across the floor, and around the divot and the drain ring. Any of them work. The other membranes are similar. I thought maybe the tape and redgard coupled together could fill the gap. Am I probably fine for an infrequently used shower in a basement bathroom? And because every shower design is different we offer a variety of entrances as well: single curb, double curb, triple curb, or barrier free. You gotta like my page. No silicone around the drain then- thanks. I wanted to avoid setting a very thin hex mosaic tile … Just need a bit more info to be able to help. Redgard is bright pink – I mean pepto-bismol pink, it almost glows in the dark. Thanks for the quick reply. Just thoroughly coat the entire inside of your shower until the whole thing is bright pink – enough so it can be seen from space. Tile-Redi, a leading manufacturer of tile-over pans offers a wide range of shower pans that are ready for tile, including curb and curbless models as well as special features, such as infinity drains, tile-over drains, and shower seats. If that is what you have going on, a wall tile installation, then that is okay. Redgard will not bond to silicone. When it comes to waterproofing and crack isolation in tile assemblies, trust the RedGard brand from Custom Building Products. Your best bet would be to call armstrong's technical services dept. I have 2 quick questions… 1. I'd try gasoline or acetone.umm, no. kylenelson, Mar 25, 2013 #2. You can post photos stored on your computer at any time, Margaret. Can I just sand this down and apply Red Guard. After the tile work is properly set, follow the architect's and manufacturer's instructions to … These membranes consist of products such as Custom Building Products’ Redgard and Laticrete’s Hydrobarrier and Hydroban and Mapei’s Aquadefense. You can use any good modified thinset over redgard. Previous post: Installing Cement Backerboard for Tile in a Shower. Those big triangular holes in the mud job I filled in with plaster. Thanks, Bob RobertHeath, Mar 25, 2013 #1. kylenelson You'll find me on the floor I Support TFP Senior Member. These products shrink a bit as they dry so you must make sure that it has not shrunk enough to create holes or voids in places such as corners and seams. I wouldn't have put it all over the shower floor. Yes, they should be dampened. That is a five foot back wall with two 3 foot side walls. If it’s too large to fill with caulk it’s too large to fill with redgard. Waterproofing membrane is added over the tape. I’ve tiled probably well over 1000 showers in my 20+ years of setting tile directly over backer board and to my knowledge never had a problem. So here it is : Will redgard stick to pvc and other hard plastics? Also, can Silicone be used (with sufficient drying time) in corners before applying redgard? Should I sand off the Redgard? Then tile over the RedGard. Declares that whomever is building the shower does not have confidence in their ability to waterproof a shower using a proven method. Now, let it dry and it's ready to be tiled. Left a nice small gap for caulk. I do have a vapor barrier behind the CBU. So we bought some…and I understand how to apply it, however I’m just worried the tile glue we have won’t stick to it. I have a redi niche installed and am about to put up my CBU. Awesome. These products can also be used as waterproofing on your shower pans in leiu of a regular pan membrane. I’ve decided to have my privacy violated and start putting things on Facebook. Two proper coats will give you a continuous topical membrane. Laticrete’s Hydroban, for instance, goes on light green and dries forest green. We have DuraRock from the shower pan all the way to the 9 foot ceiling. Joint compound? This is more of a cosmetic application question as opposed to applying redgard on a tile substrate. Is there a solvent other than gasoline or acetone that I should use before I attempt to peel the redguard off? Is is densshield or purple-board (or something else)? Can redguard be used on fiberglass shower walls? Using RedGard under floor and wall tile will create a barrier that will be undisturbed after the tile is installed and grouted. Unless you have a steam shower or something similar, two coats would probably be enough. Tile Redi is the most well-known manufacturer of tile-ready shower pans, and most of what they offer is available for purchase on Amazon. Click Above to have professional TileTips sent directly to your inbox. Using 12×12 tile. Ceramic Tile Advice Forums - John Bridge Ceramic Tile. Self-Leveling Underlayment LevelLite Self-Leveling Underlayment helps LevelLite Self-Leveling Underlayment helps level floors prior to the installation of ceramic I am attempting my first tiling project at my house. Creates more problems that did not exist and 2. From what I have read, the premixed thinset does not dry out to form a good adhesive bond when applied over/under a non-permeable membrane like Redguard or the Kerdi-band products. And i was wondering if redgard can be saved if seal tight for future jobs, Thanks. They could use the RedGard using the "divot method" around the drain. However, Killz will bond to it, and paint will bond to the Killz. After all the corners are coated I use a paint roller and pan to cover the walls. Can we paint the whole thing with RedGard and then not tile over the Redgard? I will refer to all the membranes as Redgard for the purposes of this post, but they all work nearly the same way. Also apply membrane over any uncovered backer board and screw heads. What type of Primer do you suggest to paint over the RedGard with before applying Joint compound? STANDING water is the problem, water cannot stand on vertical walls. First of all – ‘water-resisant drywall’? ‘Just in case’ normally does two things: 1. I need to tile this floor so could I Redgard the mastic residue so my tiles thin set will have a bondable surface? Location: USA MI. vBulletin® v3.7.4, Copyright ©2000-2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Hi Roger, Make sure your specific product includes specifications for this application if you choose to do that. 1-1.5 hours . Yes, you can run the tape from the backer to the tub and redgard. You should be used to it after a few minutes. (That’s the word on the street…), Help with all your tile needs (and extreme jackassery!). 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